Get rid of EV mandate! Let the market, not the government, dictate
Jul 23, 2025
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Hi there, Michael Sarabi with CPAC. Uh
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the question is actually for you,
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Premier Ford, and I appreciate today's
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announcement has to do with pipelines
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and energy corridors, but given that
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amongst the regulations being pointed
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out is the EV mandate. What does today's
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announcement, how does that affect your
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past enthusiasm to develop battery
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plants in Ontario as well as have EVs uh
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manufactured in Ontario? Well, I always
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believe I'm a big proponent of the the
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market dictates. Uh the market will
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dictate, not governments will dictate.
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Uh we have to get rid of these mandates
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that companies won't be able to meet
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their targets. Um and let's let's
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continue investing. I'm I'm confident
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that uh eventually uh the EV sector per
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se uh will will continue growing, but
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right now uh the people are going to
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decide. But let's not slow down on on
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building the the battery plants and any
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other EV plants, but who knows us the
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best but the auto sector and they'll
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they'll determine that. But we're going
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to continue investing in the in the
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market itself.
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I'll just I'll just add a couple things.
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Uh I think Doug produces 1.2 million
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cars and can Canadians buy about 1.2
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million cars. So we've as a province
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taken the leadership in saying we're
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going to prioritize fleet vehicles that
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are made and finished in Ontario and
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there's some great options. There's
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light duty vehicles, heavy duty
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vehicles, there's hybrid vehicles and so
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uh we would hope that others would look
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at it in the in the same way that if the
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Americans are going to take a hostile
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approach I guess our auto industry I
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think it's up to us to to be supportive
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when it comes to electric vehicles. We
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only have a very small percentage of
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electric vehicles that have been
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purchased in Alberta. And as I
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mentioned, if we were to to try to meet
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the mandate in Alberta alone, we'd have
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to buy all of the low emissions vehicles
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currently being produced in Ontario,
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which is impossible for the entire
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country to achieve, which means that
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this policy is forcing us to look
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outside of supporting for Ontario in
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order to be able to achieve it. And I
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guess the last thing I'd say is that um
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we we think that we're trying to build
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our hydrogen economy in Alberta. We
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bought uh the Edmonton International
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Airport bought a 100 Toyota Misu which
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are is the passenger vehicle. We're
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doing a dual fuel um a pilot with the
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trucking industry. Uh CP is building
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hydrogen locomotives in our province. We
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have uh hydrogen for home heating
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hydrogen as well that we're looking for
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electricity. But I would love to see the
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Ontario manufacturers figure out a way
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that we could perhaps have an hydrogen
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combustion engine. I know Toyota is made
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here and then that may be a way for us
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to reach zero emissions targets a
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different way. I think I think that we
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have to allow the market and innovators
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to be able to meet the needs of of each
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individual marketplace. And so I'm
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hoping we can have a really constructive
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conversation with Ontario about that
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now. I've begun it as well with uh with
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individuals with Toyota who've been
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who've been in our province and and and
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so let's just have a little more
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latitude to allow for the market to work
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and innovation to work. That's what I
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would say and I think we can all benefit
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from that.
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And maybe speak a little bit on that. Uh
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as Doug said or Premier Ford, pardon me,
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said the um you know, the market will
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drive this and I I think we're seeing
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that as well. And and um we shouldn't
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forget about just how integrated our our
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economy is uh in interproincially, but
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also across North America. And this is
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maybe something for us to remember as we
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uh engage with uh the Trump
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administration and the current US
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administration. But we are very very
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integrated. We're integrated for a
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reason because it's the most efficient
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to produce things. We had a steak
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yesterday. Um like that animal is likely
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born in Saskatchewan, finished in
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Alberta, and is now sold by an Ontario
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ger out here. Uh that that's how
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integrated our our Canadian economy is
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on every front. Um when it comes to uh
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manufacturing, whether they be e
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vehicles, gas powered vehicles, whatever
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that is, uh you're going to see that
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largely happening in Ontario from a
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Canadian perspective. Um but as we move
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to EVs uh there is also further
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integration that is occurring there.
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There's rare earths uh critical minerals
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that are going to come from Quebec, the
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ring of fire in Ontario, but also from
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Western Canada as well. We've opened a a
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processing facility for rare earths of
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which there's much interest around the
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world that would ultimately in the
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future build the battery elements for uh
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just such vehicles as the market
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determines uh the the outbuild of that.
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And so, you know, I I think uh often we
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get um you know, thoughts that, you
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know, this is largely an impact only to
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Ontario. Um but we are so very
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integrated across our provinces, whether
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it's in our food production, whether
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it's in our energy uh security and and
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what we provide to other Canadians,
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which was in a former question. Um or or
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more generally in our our economy. Uh
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when one decision is made in one part of
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the country, it often has a ripple
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effect in other areas whether we
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recognize it or not.
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